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XS Scuba Worthington Cylinders HP Steel 3442 psi (230 bar) Tanks X7-100, 12.2L
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Questions about this item:
James M I have a tank that is about 7 inches OD and has a Catalina valve . I'm trying to figure out exactly what I have . Its approx 27 inches to the top of tank and 30 to the top of valve . I'm sure that its aluminum . Anyone know what I might have ?
DANIEL C What are the numbers around the top of the Tank? That info will a least tell you the psi of the cylinder. I should also have the date of the last hydro. If there is only one hydro date that is probably the year the tank was new. If it is DOT approved cylinder it will have DOT AL3000 number or something like that. The 3000 is the psi rating for the cylinder. If it is a different number it has a different psi rating. AL3000 is a very common SCUBA Cylinder.
timothy k thinking about purchasing hp 100 or hp 120,i know they both hold 3442psi,but having trouble deciding,i do alot shore diving climbing rocks and walking at the lake,im 6ft 8in tall and 290lbs,what would you recomend?
MARSHALL O It depends on your typical air consumption however; most guys I've met who fall in the "big and tall" category typically need a bigger cylinder to get adequate bottom time. Consider renting one of each to compare.
MICHAEL S At 6'8", would go with the hp120 even though you are shore diving a bit. The longer tank will make it easier to don and doff becuase you will not have to squat so low to get inot your rig when it is on a table or the back of of a pickup. With your size, I would think that you can handle the extra weight. Also, since the tank will be longer, it will be easier to balance on a longer torso, For taller people, the shorter HP100 can make you "head heavy" and thus more difficult to trim out.
ANIMESH B I'd recommend the 120 for you without hesitation. I'm. 5'9" and lug this about. Someone your size shouldn't have any trouble carrying this around assuming reasonable fitness. You'll be glad for the extra bottom time. Bigger folks consume more air generally so this tank was made for you!
BRANDON G so they are actually considered low pressure, so you dont need a din valve for the first stage. Although I found that this might mean some minor adjustments to your first stage second stage set up. My octupus was more likely to free flow when turning on my air with this tank when first getting in the water.
as far as shore diving, the 130 was a dam bear to lug around, as I am 5'7'', 165. and used to lug mine over alot of rocks shore diving. I reccomend you check the specs page on the worthington site which gives you bouyancy and weight for both empty and full. But I did like the extra capacity on the 130, I could get twice the time out of it compared to your standard alumium
Shopper What is the difference between this tank and HP65?
ELBERT W Also the hp60 is a smaller size and weighs less than the hp100.
ELBERT W Hp65 holds 65 cubic feet of air, where as an hp100 holds 100 cubic feet of air. Hp100 tanks are filled to 3442psi, I don't know what the psi of a 65 is, but it would be less than hp80. Hp80 tanks are generally filled to 3000psi.
BRANDON G I have never use a hp 65, but this is not a high pressure tank, so you do not need a DIN valve on your first stage for this model
Shopper What kind of re-certification do I need? Visual or hydro?
JOHN O I bought two of these a couple years ago and wish I had more. Of the 14 tanks I own, I like these two the best. These Worthington Steel tanks come clean from the factory so they are "O2 clean" from the factory. I had them get labeled as such when I had them filled the first time and I don't think it cost me a dime. The "O2 clean" means it can be blended gas in the tank and you don't need to purchase pre-blended Nitrox. The trick with an "O2 clean" tank is to always have the tank filled from a reputable fill station and not some oily wreck of a compressor at a remote dive site. The dirty fill will negate the cleanlines of the tank and it may then contain florocarbons. I sent my 2 Worthington 120 steels in to a rinky-dink dive shop for a typical annual visual inspection and they tore off my "O2 clean" stickers. I complained to them when I picked up the tanks and they told me that they can't remember my tanks having an "O2 clean: sticker so they couldn't just put another sticker on it without actually cleaning it (for a hefty price I might add). You won't need a visual until you have had the tank for a year as it is ready to go as soon as the dive shop installs the valve and fills it. The Hydro won't be needed until 5 years after the date that is factory stamped in the tank. Hope this helps, John
BRIAN C Only visual for the first five years, then hydro every fifth year.
MARSHALL O You need both but it depends on timing. Visual certifications are done yearly and hydros are done every 5 years. You should only need to take it in for a visual after the initial purchase in order to get it filled.
CHARLES S Tank is shipped with the value out. A dive shop will install value, and certify it, then fill it. It should not need hydro for several years. I am actually having all my tanks spun and hydro right now, but I have had them for about 5 years. Love my HP steel 120. I also use 6 lbs less lead, than when diving with alumiun tanks.
Shopper what is the weight?
Monica s The 130cu ft is 50lbs.
Jason S My reg. says 3000 psi can I use it with 3442psi ? Also I got a 130 ( I haven't used yet) how much wieght should I be able to drop verses stand alum. 80 considering all other varibles are the same?
MICHAEL S You can expect to drop 4 lbs of lead by switching from a standard aluminum 80 to a steel 140. The AL80 tank about 2 lbs positively bouyant when empty while the HP120 is 2 lbs negatively bouyant when empty. You will have a much greater bouyancy swing between full and empty with the HP130 and the AL80 tanks. The HP130 will be very much more negatively bouyant when the tanks are full when compared to the full AL80 tank. Because of this, you may need more lift in your BCD when using the larger tanks.
The 3000 PSI issue with the regulator should not be an issue, but if you are concered about it there are two good ways to deal with it. One way is to underfill the HP3442 tank to 3000 PSI. This will still give you 120 cu ft of gas, which is a lot of gas for a single tank.
BRIAN C I would not use a 3400 PSI tank on a 3000 PSI regulator. You can have the tank only filled to 3000 PSI until you upgrade the regulator. I am diving with Mares regulator, the extra air is awesome.
I used the XS Scuba 130 in fresh water last year in the Florida Springs. I was able to remove 12 pounds vs a 80 Alum. tank
BRANDON G I have used my normal 1st stage on it with major concerns. I have found that it is more likely to stick after you turn the air off, so make sure you don't tighten the knob to much ( i have taken to simple vice grip in my dive bag b/c of this). that being said the extra pressure might be a long term strain on teh 1st stage, but I have had no way to test this
You should be able to get rid of quite a bit of weight ~ 10 pounds.. although test this!
Also you really do get almost twice teh volume of air, so you will save on tank fills
BUT it weighs close to 40 llbs full, and there are days when I am climbing over the rocks for shore diving that I regret that.
CHRISTOPHER G You need a regulator that has a DIN attachment (not the standard Yoke that comes with many regulators). Compared to an aluminum 80 (-1.8 lbs full and +3.2 lbs empty) the 130 (-11.7 lbs full and -2.0 lbs empty) is heavier and negatively buoyant even empty. You can probably drop 5 lbs, maybe more depending on your diving. The 3000 psi is a standard rating for aluminum tanks, but I haven't seen a regulator that states it, unless you are reading the Yoke adapter. You will definately enjoy having a lot more air with the 130.
RON C No one but the manufacturer can change what the manufacturer rates regulators at. That said, I've never heard of a problem with a regulator that was caused by HP tanks. I and my family have regulators made by 5 different companies & I have used all with the HP tanks. If it was me or my family, I would use it ? but the call is yours. I suggest hooking your regulator to the tank when fully pressurized & verify everything works fine before jumping into 130 feet of water.
Shopper Is this possible to buy a tank with Din valve?
SCOTT W The tank comes with a standard/DIN valve already. There is an insert that converts it to a standard from a DIN.
DAVID G 2 points:
1) The tank has a convertable valve. Take out the insert and you have a Din valve.
2) Seems like this should have been answered by LeisurePro themselves. If they can't answer questions like this, why would we want to buy from them?
KEVIN D S Hello,
I did not need to buy the steel 3442 psi tank with a Din valve but another tank I did. I had to buy the Din valve separate and then change out the other.
This left me with an extra valve.
HAROLD C This valve converts to din by taking the center out with a Alin wrench
Shopper I'm trying to decide what to get. Why did you pick this one?
SCOTT W Personally, I prefer the 100cf tank. I have one of each, the 119 and the 100. The 119 is a beast and is a lot harder to trim out than the 100. I bought the 119 because I can make two dives on one tank which is nice since my boat does not have a compressor.
RICHARD D I am 6' 1" and weight 215....like the extra air available...helps me be able to stay down much longer and still have good reserve. I really like the tank...actually have 4 of them... though it takes some getting used to because of it's size. Sorry for delay in my answer...been in Belize diving. I love the quality of Worthington...still looks like new, no matter how much I use them.
PATRICK K I bought one in July 2007 it was due to be hydro'd this year and it failed hydro stay away from the high pressure cylinders
ERIC J Great tanks haven't had a singke problem with them but if had to do over again would go with the 120's instead of the 119's since they are wider then ur standard tanks and won't fit on most charter boats tank racks
CODY D Have dove with other divers with them and no problems. Have had these 100cf. tanks and really like them. Have six and no worries.
Dan
CHRIS J Lots of extra bottom time, although very heavy out of the water.
CHRIS J I chose this tank because I use a lot of air while under water and needed to increase my bottom time. It did accomplish this, however, it is very heavy out of the water and I wish I had gone with 119 or 120. My next tank will likely be the 119 to stay with the same 8" diameter. Currently I only have one 8" tank and a bit of a pain to adjust straps and weights for an aluminum 80 for a second dive. At least with the 119, I will only have to adjust my weights. But overall, a good tank, but just a beast out of the water - but the added bottom time is great, nearly doubled.
JAMES J I choose this tank because I wanted a steel tank due to its negative buoyancy. When comparing worthington vs. blue steel I did not like the coating on the blue steel tanks because when it chips the tank rusts compared to the worthington tank which is galvanized and will not rust as easy. I have had mine for 5 years and never had an issue with it.
JOHN S I'm a big Guy. Can suck through a 72 in no time and usually first back on the boat. Using these, I am the last to surfice can make two dives with air to spare while everyone else is switching tanks.
Shopper Do these tanks require a cleaning and inspection for nitox use when they arrive?????
Dan E Oxygen Compatibility
? All Worthington scuba cylinders are cleaned for oxygen and oxygen-enriched service at the factory. If
you intend to use a cylinder for oxygen and oxygen-enriched service (i.e. with any gas containing oxygen
concentrations of 23.5% or more), all components used with the cylinder must be oxygen compatible. It
is the responsibility of the cylinder user to ensure that the cylinder and all components are maintained
in a proper state of oxygen cleanliness in strict accordance with regulatory requirements and industry
standards.
? DOT mandates strict pressure limit. Gas pressure in an aluminum cylinder containing enriched or pure
oxygen (oxygen concentration of 23.5% or more) must never exceed 3000 psi (see CFR 49). Worthington
cylinders marked for 3300 psi are included and can not be charged with oxygen enriched air above 3000
psi as mandated by the DOT.
CHRISTOPHER G You do need to have the tanks VIPed and depending on your dive shop they may require that you have them cleaned for nitrox as they do not come with Nitrox VIP stickers.
EDWARD P Yes. The are shipped without the valve on. So they have to be cleaned and assembled.
ERIK H If the cylinder shows up with corrosion problems, you won't know about it unless you pay the nominal $10-15 fee for a visual inspection. For as much as they cost, the viz fee is definitely an insurance policy against hidden corrosion.
NICHOLAS C Yes, all tanks require a VIS inspection every year. Plus, the tank valves will need to be installed...but again that's true with all new tanks. No one will fill nixtrox without seeing a current VIS and o2 cleaned inspection sticker.
JAMES M Negative. The tanks and valves are cleaned for pre-blended nitrox up to 40% FO2. If you can get pre-blended nitrox, just insert the valve, tighten and you are good to go.
If your dive shop must 'drain' your tank before pumping pure 100% O2, and then adding air to obtain the proper nitrox mix, you will need to have the tank O2 cleaned and the O Ring changed to insure you have an O ring that is good for pure 100% O2.
Great tanks.
jim
RON C No. These tanks arrive nitrox ready.
JOHN W You should check with Worthington but they normally come O2 clean.
Tyler R You wont have to get a hydro for 5 years from the born on date right?
TRICIA R That's correct. Federal law (DOT regulations) require hydro testing every five years. The tank will come stamped with the date is was manufactured (called the "born" date), and that starts the first five-year clock. Filling stations also require that you have a visual inspection yearly.
We've had our steel tanks for seven years and love them!
JEFFREY C Yes...5 years (max) between hydro tests under normal usage and conditions.
Hope this helps...and dive safe!
HOLLY O That is correct , but you still need a visual every year
COLL P Yes that's correct, as it's inspected during construction it's considered hydro'd. Just be aware that it was probably built at least a few months before you bought it so the hydro date will be 5 years from the build date or "born on" date.
JOHN W Yes it's five years from the date stamped on the cylinder.
TIMOTHY D You will still need to get hydro every 5 years.
Glenn P How much does an X7-100, steel tank weigh empty? and how much Full?
EDWARD P Glenn,
Not sure about the 100. Go to their website. i think they have a complete break down of the weight.
ERIK H sorry, I thought it was regarding a 133 and it was just under 60 lbs, not 80!
ERIK H With DIN valve, boot, and recently filled mine weighs just shy of 80 lbs
THOMAS M An HP100 tank is about 33 pounds empty, and weighs about 10 additional pounds when filled. It yields a bouyancy of roughly -17 pounds full and -7 pounds empty.
Shopper Is the length on the spec page given with or without valve?
LeisurePro S Length given is without valve.
Shopper What is the size, in cubic feet, of the tank?
LeisurePro S If you click on the blue 'select size' button, you will see a list of our offered tank sizes. You can choose from anything between 80 cu feet to 130 cu feet.
Shopper Where would I get it inspected? Can I have it filled with nitrox?
LeisurePro S You can just take it in to any dive shop and they should be able to do the inspection for you. Comes ready for up to 40% nitrox.
Shopper What service pressure does the 130 cu ft tank have?
LeisurePro S XS Scuba's HP tanks all have a service pressure of 3442 psi.
Shopper Is the tank finish hot dipped galvanized and made from deep drawn chrome molybedenum steel plate?
LeisurePro S Yes, the cylinders are hot dipped galvanized and are "manufactured using the Deep Draw and Ironing (DDI) process. Cylinders start from a circular plate of chrome-moly steel".
Shopper Do these require inspection when they arrive?
LeisurePro S Yes. It is against the law to ship sealed tanks, so you will need to assemble the top valve (a simple screw in) and have the tank inspected before use. The tank is gaurenteed to pass or it is eligible for a full exchange.
Shopper can you do double tanks on steel 130's?
LeisurePro S You can, yes, have a set up with double 130's. It will be heavy, so just know if you'll be able to manage it!
Shopper what is the lenght of x7 and x8 are they same lenght
LeisurePro S It varies depending on the size. Check out this Specifications Page for all the info.
Shopper Does this tank come with a yoke or DIN valve? You wrote it had a DIN valve but under the description it says it is a standard yoke valve? What kind of regulator do I need for this tank a yoke or a DIN?
LeisurePro S tt has a Yoke valve with DIN pull out plug. Regulator can be either But DIN recommended
Shopper How much does an X7-120, 15.3L tank weigh empty? Full?
LeisurePro S Weight Empty 38.0 lbs Full + 9 pounds
Shopper What are the weight and buoyancy characteristics of the 80 and 100 ft^3 tanks both full and empty.
LeisurePro S 80cf:-9lbs full, -3lbs empty, weight empty 27.7 lbs 100cf:-10lbs full, -2.5 lbs empty, weight 33lbs
Shopper how much wieght to counteract the lift of the air does this require fully charged
LeisurePro S They are negative.
Shopper HI, regarding the XS Scuba Worthington Steel tank, I couldn't understand whether the 120 Steel had a din valve or not.
LeisurePro S Yes Din valve.
Shopper Are these tanks delivered with a current visual inspection sticker?
LeisurePro S You will need to obtain a VIP.
Shopper Does the tank come with a boot and valve?
Shopper What's the difference between the X7 and X8 series? Is the X8 a later generation?
LeisurePro S The X7 is referring to the 7.25? diameter of the cylinder, similar to an AL80. the X8 refers to the 8? diameter cylinder. So the difference between them is just the diameter of the cylinders.
Shopper What are the overall dimensions of the X7-80, 10.1L? and does this tank handle apprxo 3400 psi. I have looked at an HP080 Steel 80 CU FT at a local shop and want to make sure this is the same tank. We are looking for the very short steel tank, alllowing comparable bottom time to the alum. 80
LeisurePro S It is a short version of a standard aluminum 80, It weighs 35lbs, and it does handle apprxo 3400 psi.
Warranty Information
This product has a limited warranty of 24 months.
www.xsscuba.com
(866) 977-2822
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- XS Scuba Worthington Cylinders HP Steel 3442 psi (230 bar) Tanks
- Complete Cylinder System: Tank, Valve and Boot
- Nitrox Ready Up to 40% FO2
- 2 Year Limited Warranty
- Cylinders:
- Material: Chrome-Moly Steel
- Deep Draw and Ironing (DDI) Process
- DDI: Produces Most Consistence Wall Thickness
- Lightest Weight, Most Efficient Cylinders
- Hot Dip Galvanizing
- Zinc Metallurgically Bonds to Steel Cylinder
- More Volume in Compact Cylinders: (see Specifications for Cylinder Lengths)
- 5 Size Cylinders: X7-80 (10 liters), X7-100 (12.2 liters), X7-120, (15.3 liters), X8-119 (14.8 liters) and X8-130 (16.0 liters)
- Manufactured to DOT Exemption and Canadian TC Permit
- Great Buoyancy Characteristics: (see Buoyancy Specifications)
- Use Less Lead than Aluminum Cylinder Diving
- Ultimate Weight to Capacity Ratios
- X7 Series: 7.25" (18.4 cm) Diameter
- X8 Series: 8.0" (20.3 cm) Diameter
- Lifetime "Exterior No Rust" Warranty
- Valve:
- XS Scuba Pro Valve
- Standard Yoke Outlet with Spin-Out DIN Insert
- Converts to 230 bar (3,336 psi) DIN Outlet
- 1/4" Hex Key Wrench Removable DIN Insert
- 3/4" - 14 NPSM Standard Inlet Threads
- 1.5 Hand Wheel Rotations from Fully-On to Fully-Off
- 5/32" Hex Key Dip Tube Included
- New Unique Color Coded Safety Hand Wheel (SHW)
- SHW: Red" Valve is Off or Not Completely Open
- SHW: Green" Valve is Completely Open and Ready for Diving
- Service Pressure: 3442 psi (230 bars)
- Triple Bright Chrome Plated Marine Brass Body
- Chrome Plated Durable Brass Valve Stem
- Teflon Coated Brass Valve Seat with Nylon Seal
- O-Ring Sealed Bonnet
- Easy Grip Rubber Hand Wheel
- Tank Boot:
- Durable, Quality Self-Draining Designed Tank Boot
- Hexagon Edge: Prevents Cylinder from Rolling when Lying on Side
| Cylinder: | ---- | | Pressure | HP Steel 3442 psi (230 bar) | | Diameter | X7 Series: 7.25" (18.4 cm)
X8 Series: 8.0" (20.3 cm) | | Weight | (Empty) X7-80: 29.9 lbs (13.56 kg), X7-100: 33.1 lbs (15 kg), X7-120: 39.7 (18 kg)
X8-119: 42.5 lbs (19.28 kg), X8-130: 44.7 (20.28 kg) | | Height | X7-80: 19.8" (50.3 cm), X7-100: 22.7" (57.7 cm), X7-120: 27.7" (70.4 cm)
X8-119: 23.9" (60.7 cm), X8-130: 25.3" (64.3 cm) | | Buoyancy Full | X7-80: -9.0 lbs (-4.1 kg), X7-100: -10.0 lbs (-4.54 kg), X7-120: -11.0 lbs (-4.9 kg)
X8-119: -10.9 lbs (-4.94 kg), X8-130: -11.7 lbs (-5.3 kg) | | Cylinder Nitrox Ready | Yes | | Valves: | ---- | | Material | Valve Body & Stem : Marine-Grade Chromed Brass
Hand Wheel: Rubber
Seat Assembly: Teflon Plated Brass Alloy with Nylon Seal | | Type (Yoke, DIN, Convertible) | Convertible | | Valve Nitrox Ready | Yes | | Thread Size | 3/4"-14 NPSM | | Weight [with packaging] | X7-80, 10.1L: 33.85 lb, X7-100, 12.2L: 35.35 lb, X7-120, 15.3L: 43.95 lb, X8-119, 14.8L: 44.65 lb, X8-130, 16.0L: 48.9 lb |
11/8/2012 5.0I woud buy this product again By marto from miami florida - Easy to Use
- Large Capacity
- Diving Type:
- Open Water Diving, Rescue Diving, Wreck Diving
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By Squarehead from Portland, ME About Me Casual/ Recreational - Easy to Use
- Large Capacity
- Night Diving
- Open Water
- Wreck Diving
- Diving Type:
- Open Water Diving, Wreck Diving
- Was this a gift?:
- No
- Easy to Use
- Large Capacity
- Night Diving
- Open Water
- Wreck Diving
- Diving Type:
- Night Diving, Open Water Diving, Rescue Diving, Wreck Diving
- Was this a gift?:
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By jscott099 from Bradenton, FL - Cave Diving
- Night Diving
- Open Water
- Wreck Diving
- Diving Type:
- Cave Diving, Drift Diving, Night Diving, Open Water Diving, Rescue Diving, Wreck Diving
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5/16/2012 (0 of 1 customers found this review helpful) 4.0XS Scuba HP Steel Tank By Jonathan from Central Virginia - Easy to Use
- Large Capacity
- Large Volume
- Nitrox Ready
- Solid Construction
- Valve
- Plastic color-code valve
- Very Heavy
- Deep diving
- Heavy or Deep Breathers
- Night Diving
- Open Water
- Wreck Diving
- Diving Type:
- Deep diving, Drift Diving, Night Diving, Open Water Diving, Rescue Diving, Wreck Diving
- Was this a gift?:
- No
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