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Blue Steel Faber High Pressure Steel Tank 133 CF, 17.0L
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Questions about this item:
Shopper Hi guys,
Is a wing with 38lb lift enough for the Faber 149? If not which size is suitable?
ORCUN K Short answer: Probably, but it could be borderline
Long answer:
The tank has a swing of 11lbs, so you need to lift that. Are you diving wet? Cold water? That will dictate buoyancy change in your exposure suit, which could be up to 20lbs. Finally wings are usually not rated for actual lift, which could make a few lbs difference. Then you need a couple of lbs to keep your head above water. So worst case scenario a 38lbs wing should be enough, definitely so if the spec'd lift is actual.
IDEAS I yes it is enough, provided you don't have a lot of other heavy things to lift with it. If you're light in the water, you should be ok, but to be totally safe something in the 45 lbs lift would be better.
Ken M If I buy this item what will it require before I can us it? Also will my yoke stage 1 hook up to it?
RANDY M The dive shop that does my fills did a VIP & Hydro. Tank came O2 scrubbed. Your shop may require the O2 Scrub before placing a sticker on it. The valve is compatible with Yoke and DIN.
PAGE H Ken,
The tank comes sealed, Nitrox ready out of the box (the valve comes in a sealed plastic bag. Don't open until you get it to your LDS for inspection). Just take the tank to your local dive store (LDS) and they will do a visual and fill it (although be warned that some dive shops, if you are going to use if for Nitrox diving, may require a cleaning. This is an unnecessary step, but some shops that do partial pressure blending are a bit apprehensive about skipping the cleaning step if they didn't sell the tank - too much liability/danger if it sparks during the fill).
In as far as the yoke stage 1 is concerned, yes it supports both DIN and yoke configurations out of the box. Either way great tank! Enjoy!
LISA Z Ken
Since its not assembled due to shipping restrictions it will have to be visually inspected and assembled by your local drive shop prior to filling it (my shop charged me $50-$60). The tank can be configured either for yoke or din depending on your regulator. I myself use a scuba pro T600 yoke style regulator.
Good luck and have fun.
COREY M You will not need any extra adapters to connect your yoke. I suggest that you get the 100 steel tank because the 80 steel is very small compared to the 80 aluminum. The 100 steel tank is similar to the size of a 80 aluminum; it is a little bit heavier. Remember that steel tanks will allow to keep neutral beyouncy better.
PAUL E You will need nothing everything is included. Yes, your stage one yolk will work.
KEITH S The tank will need to be inspected and pressure tested and the valve it comes with installed. It comes with a yoke style valve setup. If you need a din style set up you may be able to request it.
ALAN G The Faber tank came with a valve that can be used with both yoke and din valve. I think it is called a convertible valve. You just remove a insert the the valve to use a din valve. Faber tanks are very good. Just drill some small holes in the sides of the plastic tank boot to promote drainage or the side of the tanks will rust.
Safe diving
GLENN F I bought my tank 2 yrs ago. I needed a Vis inspection along with 1st fill of air.
This is a great tank. I have been very happy with it.
TOMASZ M You have to take it to any dive shop for visual inspection first and yes it come with yoke valve
BRIAN G You will need to take it to your local dive shop to get a visual inspection and an air fill. Yes, your yoke first stage will connect to it.
TREY M Get it inspected, filled, and yes, it will. The only problem is the metal around the o-ring bends real easy.
Shopper Are the valves included with the tank 232 bar DIN or 300 bar DIN compatible?
JOEL R 232 bar DIN
The valve on mine actually did not last long however and had to be replaced within 2 months. Tank is awesome though very rugged.
Shopper Does the tank come with a DOT certification sticker?
IDEAS I For sure. Don't forget that to sell in the US, tanks MUST have a DOT stamp on the neck, not a sticker, but a stamp. These are great tanks, enjoy!
DAVID E Can't say For sure, I recall tanks are stamped with DOT cert and serial numbers. However, I have purchased 6 tanks, all arriving by ups or Fedex, no issues...and ultimately...they were accepted by reputable dive stores for inpections and fill without a hitch.
ROBERT C It is DOT stamped into the shoulder of the tank itself.
Dmitry D What is the exact model of this tank? You wrote it's a BlueSteel model. But you shows 149 cf. Is it FX series FX149DVB? Does it have a DIN valve?
MCCARTHY SR P No - it does not.
I hope this helps.
Patrick
Prov 3:5-6
MICHELLE N I no longer have this tank because I moved to Colorado and the movers wouldn't take it and I didn't want to ship them or travel with them. However, I can tell you it is a FX and it does come with a DIN valve with the inserts for K. They were great tanks but get scratched up very easily. You can buy Beaver neoprene covers for them on eBay to keep your cam bands from ruining them. Remember they also come disassembled so you still have to pay a shop and spend another 60/80 or so getting them VIP'd and filled.
Shopper I'm planning on buying one of these tanks, but I'm having trouble deciding which size to purchase. I would love to have the 149 CF--I don't use much air on a typical dive and could definitely use it for 2 dives without switching.
However, is it significantly heavier and/or larger than the other sizes? If it's a hulking behemoth than I'd rather have 2 more comfortable tanks, but it would be fantastic not to have to carry around the extra one.
Anyone have any insight? Thanks in advance.
Justin R I bought one of these and lied it so much I bought another for a buddy to use! It's big but not a hulking behemoth. I use it for 2 no deco dives on charter boats an also use it for deep deco diving. I live this tank!! It's heavier than other tanks but not too heavy. I'm 5'6" 150 lbs and its not too big for me. I wish all my friends had this tank, the bottom time is so worth it!
RICHARD B Hi, bought the 80, weighs like an 80 aluminum-larger "weigh" to heavy to offset benefits unless making tech dives- but do not need to use a weight belt without wet suit, I am nutral when down to 300 psi, so you would only need min wt in bc.
Need to make sure fill station does not jam it up to 3600 or more, it is rated at 3449 psi, and not allowed to overfill, so can get fills anywhere.
ALAN G Hi Charles !
Don't get the 149 tank, it's too big and heavy. Stick with either the Faber 100 for shore diving or the Faber 117 for boat dives. Which ever Faber tank you get make sure you drill some
Small holes in the sides of the tank boot to facilitate drainage or it will corrode the sides of the tank.
Safe diving!
Alan
WILLIAM M I own two 149's and love them. They are heavier than most tanks, you can get two dives out of them if you are good on air and your dive buddy is diving an 80 or 100. To make the most of the 149 it is better if your dive buddy has a 149 also. I also have two 133, two 120, two 100 and a bunch of 80s however the only tanks I use is the 149s (more air mainly for deeper dives) and the steel 120s (smaller diameter = less drag and less weight). hope this helps
DEIRDRE G We also use Nitrox in our tanks and recommend it.
DEIRDRE G Not all dive shops will fill or like to fill high pressure 100. You will get more dive/breath time if you go with a 108 low pressure steel faber tank and it will be lighter than 149. I bought the low pressure after diving 90 feet witht the high pressure. Lot longer dive time. Hope this helps.
TREY M The tank is great for longer dives and holds 161 CF when filled cold. These steel tanks are a lot heavier than aluminum tanks, but you use less weights. I use Nitox and enjoy the extra time as it holds the same as two ( 80 CF) tanks.
brady d Is there any benefit to the faber tanks compared to the steel or galvanized? I was told to go with the galvanized tank. Also, I am really torn on to go with the 120 cf or the 100cf. I am afraid that the 120 is going to be to large and will feel like " too much on my back" . But I like the fact that you are getting a extra 20 cf of air. Great for deep dives!
If anyone can help, it would be greatly appreciated.
ROBERT S Good Day Brady, I own a 149cf Faber Blue Steel tank. I too like to touch the bottom as often as possible. I am 6 foot even and most of my dives are from shore. And am by no means am a gym junkie. I purchased the 149 due to the fact I do a bunch of exploration and can do multi dives on a single tank. I can not speak on the galvanized tanks as I do not own one. However, I love my steal Faber. My dive buddy has a 130 cf steal tank and has had it for years and has a few thousand dives on it. We dove the other day, went past 200 feet and dove for over 80 minutes and still had room left. The extra 20 feet on the 120 will be worth the effort.
Good luck with your decision. And enjoy you new tank and diving. Bigger is better! Hope this helped. Any other questions let me know, I'd be happy to answer.
Robert
WILLIAM S The Faber high pressure steel tanks are galvanized.However they are cold galvanized as opposed to a hot dip galvanizing. The hot dip is supposed to be a little more robust . However the Faber tanks are painted white over the galvanize and are a much better looking tank. Ask yourself this, are you an airhog and go through a tank much faster than your dive buddy? If so than whats better "too much on your back" ,which in the water is meaningless. Or "well I'm out of air, sorry everyone we have to end the dive". If you dont go through air at a fast pace than get tanks in the same size range as the people you are most likely to be diving with. That way you are not carrying more than you have to and bring back a half full tank because your buddys had less air to start with. Or if you and your buddy dont mind going solo than get the big tank and whoever runs out first goes back and the other continues. I'm an air hog and on trips where I dont have my big tanks I run my tank dry to keep up with my friends.When I am down to 200 pounds left I start a leisurely ascent till I run out than surface swim back. I do not recommend this course of action unless you are very comfortable in the water and have a lot of diving experience.
ROBERT C My Faber is a steel tank. However I am not using it for diving. I fill a pellet rifle with it. I needed a stel tank to hold 3400 psi.
Sorry I do not know about diving. It works great for what I got it.
DYLAN B Faber tanks are steel. When I researched the pros/cons of Faber-style finish vs galvanized, I opted for the Faber. From what I recall, as long as you are good about rinsing your equipment after a dive, there is really no drawback to the Faber finish and it has some advantages. I would recommend the 100 cf, but it's a personal preference. The 100 is more or less the size of an AL80. If you're a big guy and you really need that much air I'd say go for the 120.
DAVID H M I own one Faber 100 cu ft steel tank which I got from LeisurePro. I also have a 130 Faber cu ft tank. Their quality and the finish are outstanding. People notice the difference between them and the galvanized tanks. I also own 3 PST tanks: 2 100 cu ft steels and one 80 cu ft steel. And a 120 cu ft XS Scuba tank that I also purchased from LeisurePro. I seldom use the 120 and 130. The 100's give me just enough extra air (especially with a good air fill) that they almost perfect for every recreational dive. The 120 comes in handy when you need more air, but the increased length and additional weight are real negatives. Because of the increased length, my regulator's first stage is also positioned right behind my head. If I had had a chance to try the tank before I bought one, I don't think I would have. The 100's get it done for me.
I have not had any problems with rust inside the Faber tanks. I have had rust problems with the PST tanks and it costs money to get them cleaned. I really like the Faber 100. I bought one for my son to use. The profile of the tank appears to be a tad slimmer than my PST's. The people at my dive shop also prefer them, but a galvanized tank works just as well and is less expensive.
JUN L First air usage, it depence on two essential factors, (1) how hard do you breath, and (2) what is your buddy carries. Assum both you and your buddy carry same tank, and you have less experience, you either improve your skill, either have a bigger size tank. Another assum, both of you have same skill, you have 80, your buddy has 120, you know what to do. What I want to say is select tank size shall not link to which type of tank. In general, 80 or 100 is good enough for one-tank dive. After 20 or 30 dives, your skill will be OK, you will realize, 120 is too much except you have a buddy take same one. Go to observe at any dive spot, most divers used only 80.
About faber, steel, or galvanized, my opinion, they are all great. do not believe one will be significant better than others. They only have slightly difference, which to me, can be ignored. I bought a Faber. Why, it is white color. Just white color. After using it, I love it. My suggestion is: go to dive shop, ask Faber, steel, and galvanized tank, same size, in front of your eye, pick one you like, if price is significantly difference, take cheap one.
Good luck and enjoy your dive.
TIMOTHY D I have been using the Faber tanks for a few years now, and have not noticed any rust on them, which the galvanization is supposed to help with. I always wash the tanks with fresh water after each dive, and leave dry, so it shouldn't be a problem. The 100cf tanks are heavy and feel bulky to me (I am over 6 foot tall), but give me a little extra air over folks with the more usual 80s. I can only guess what the 120s are like, but at 4 inches longer, and 5 lbs heavier, they can only be more bulky...
ORCUN K No, there is no benefit. The lower price is the main attraction here. If money is not an issue, go for galvanized - but cheaper is nice in that you can get multiple tanks, which can be a huge convenience factor and can be used to move into doubles/sidemount.
120cf is considerably bigger and heavier. If you are short, I'd definitely stick with 100cf otherwise you may run into trim issues. If not, I think you'll get used to it. Weight is not a factor once you are in the water, it's only a hassle when carrying tanks around on land.
Otherwise you should aim to match your capacity to those of your dive buddies, taking your and their consumption rate into consideration.
MICHELLE N I purchased these tanks about six months ago and sold them due to a move across country. They were awesome tanks, however they scratch very easily. I did purchase neoprene covers for them on eBay so my cam bands would'nt keep tearing them up. They (100's) are also a very long tank compared to the worthingtons I had been using in the past so if you are really tall go for the 120's but honestly everywhere I dove I always had plenty of air and not enough time to use it up!
MARK W Steel definitely looks better. But the galvanized does not scratch or get its paint chipped. Once you're in the water you will not notice the weight difference of the tank. But it depends on if you are a air hog or air sipper. My girl uses steel 95 and I use steel 120s. and we both come up with the same amount of air.
Paul R I have previously dived comfortably with 15 liter steel tanks.
What is the actual fill capacity in bar.
what is the the actual size needed to work out SAC?(14.7?)
Are the tanks ready to connect up occy's?
What is the postage/courier fees?
If the rating is 3442 is this worked out by multiplying 15 liter by 230 bar?
So what is the actual capacity of the 19 liter? (18.6?) Paul R
Brett H This cylinder comes with what they call a pro valve, it is both a Din and K valve in one, so your regulator should fit regardless of the fitting that it has. As for the sizing on the cylinders, if you click the "select size" to the right of the picture you will see all the sizes we have available, we have both the 15 and 19 liter versions available. Here is a chart that will show you the spec's on each of the tanks: http://www.leisurepro.com/PopUp/SizeChart.aspx?chart=FBRHP.ASCX . We do not charge any taxes but your country may when the item gets there, that said, to Au generally there are no customs if the order is under $1000, you will want to check with them to be sure.
Brett H This cylinder fills to 234.14 Bar (3442 psi / 14.7). Capacity is measured differently in US than Au, here our measurement of 120 cf, is when cylinder is full to it's working pressure of 3442 psi then it is holding 120 cubic feet of air at sea level. Your measurement of 15.3 liters is how much water the cylinder will hold. The cylinders ship with the valve off as is required by UPS, USPS and FedEX. To calculate shipping add the item to your cart and then on the cart page select the destination to get shipping options and prices.
Paul R Appreciate your quick response. Will look at my budget, your postage costs. Any problem with customs or other?
What about the type of valve? I hear there are two kinds--is it DIN and k or something? I am still unsure what size the tank is. As a new diver I usually have hired 10 liter ones and run out, so went to 15 liters and pretty comfortable--though would be nice to stay down longer-and realize I will get better as I get more experience--so far only 50 dives. Which is why I got excited when I saw 19 litres!!! Regards Paul
Paul R Hi again Brett. unsure if my second reply to you went off as I see no record?
I wanted to know if your tank could be classified here in Australia as a 15 Lt or is it indeed a 19Lt--which would be great due to my sucking up air at my early diving career (50 dives) Are the valves the type that are ok in Australia and ok for standards occy? Are you aware of any legal problems in having a 19 litre? Any custom charges?
Thanks Paul
ed k what is the highest fill pressure that can be attained on this HP tank?
Donald E Our dive club fills all High Pressure Steel tanks to 3800 pounds. During the fill, the tanks get warm, even though they are filled slow (average about 20 minutes). It is very important to fill tanks slow, as it is less stress on the metal. Once my steel 120s, 100s, and 80s cool down, I usually have about 3600 pounds of air. I love my High Pressure steel tanks; and sold all my aluminum 80s. I was able to get rid of my weight belts. My wife, who is not as strong as I am, uses HP steel 80s. We have guys in our dive club (Sea Lancers at Hickam Air Force Base who are diving with low pressure steel 72s that are 50 years old and still in great shape. Steel tanks, if cared for, last a life time of diving. good luck!
brady d Yesterday in Pompano Beach, the guy sitting next to me had a 110cf low pressure steel tank with 4000 lbs in it. I know, he is asking for it.
Donald E He's crazy. The burst disk should have blown. He's wearing out his 1st stage regulator. his reward for such idiot behavior is that his first stage could fail at depth, and he could drown. His dive buddies should counsel him. I doubt that reputable dive shop did this; very likely he is using a privately owed air compressor. What an idiot.
LARRY M 3400 PSI, Most dive boats fill to 3000
TIMOTHY D According to the Faber website, these tanks can be filled to 3442psi
JOSE D The rating for this tank is 3442psi. but most shops only fill them to 3000psi.
The best fill I have ever gotten was 3200psi.
DYLAN B 3,442 pounds per square inch. As a high-pressure tank overfilling is not permitted.
Shopper What are the buoyancy characteristics of the 100 Blue steel Farber?
LeisurePro S The 100 cu tank has a buoyancy of -8.41 when full and -0.59 when empty.
Shopper What is the empty weight of the cylinder?
LeisurePro S The 80cu has a weight of 28.6 pounds and the 100cu has a weight of 34.3 pounds.
Shopper Do these come with current hydro/vip?
LeisurePro S We cannot ship with tanks with valves attached, so you will have to get a vip when you receive the tank. The tank is guaranteed to pass or we will do a no cost to you exchange.
Shopper are these tanks (DOT E-13488) or (DOT 3AA)? The Buoyancy characteristics are different between the two.
LeisurePro S These are DOT E-13488.
Shopper how do i know if i should get a low or high presure tank???
LeisurePro S It depends on your preference. I would scour the internet for forums and comparison charts (there are lots!) to help you make your final decision, but I will tell you that the main difference is in the size and fill capacity. HP tanks tend to be shorter and smaller than LP tanks, but some people often comment on the difficulty in getting a good fill with HP tanks (especially with mixed gases). LP tanks are bigger and get good fills more often and in more places.
Shopper Could you send me the specifications of both models ?
LeisurePro S Here are the specifications on all Blue Steel tanks.
Shopper Do these tanks have a metric 25/2 mm thread or imperial _? or 7/8?? Also, are they available without valves as well? Thank you.
LeisurePro S 3/4" and comes with valves only
Shopper What size is this tank?
LeisurePro S You will need to select size from the size chart
Shopper Are these Blue Steel Faber Tanks zinc galvanized, or galvanized with paint? Also, what SIZE cu ft capacity are $229 tanks?
LeisurePro S You will need to select size from the size chart and galvanized with paint
Shopper Why Did You Choose This?
DWIGHT P It's all about cu ft.
Warranty Information
This product has a limited warranty of 48 months.
www.bluesteelllc.com
(877) 434-8325
Whats in the box:Faber Tank, Din/K type Valve, Tank Boot. If you are not using steel cylinders, try to use one and you will soon realize what you have been missing. Faber can offer you the most comprehensive range of cylinders for Scuba Diving. Every year we produce and sell around the world 100.000 cylinders for scuba diving (out of 600.000 in totals). No other manufacturer in the world can match our capabilities and the breadth of our range. Faber Tanks and valves are nitrox ready. Cylinders come equipped with a DIN/K type valve that easily converts back and forth depending on the type of First-Stage Regulator to be used in conjunction with the cylinder increasing the versatility of the tank. Steel cylinders are heavier then the same capacity aluminum cylinder. This characteristic has many advantages. The heavier construction allows the diver to remove lead weight from their weight belt or integrated weight system of the BCD, allowing the diver to better distribute weight by moving it to the rear of the BCD a great advantage when wearing a back inflation style (Wing) BCD. Aluminum cylinders as we breathe the weight of air from them create positive buoyancy at or near the end of a dive. The steel cylinder with its negative buoyancy throughout the dive allows you to shed the excess lead that is required to keep you properly trimmed while you dive an aluminum cylinder. Faber HP cylinders have a round bottom and come equipped with a cylinder boot. Faber Tank, - Din /K type Valve - Tank Boot When shipped the tanks valves will be removed and the tank will require re-inspection before being filled
- Most Widely Sold Cylinder Type
- Nitrox Ready
- Great Buoyancy Characteristics
- DIN/K Convertible Valve
- Allows Diving with Less Lead
- Better Weight Distribution
- Buoyancy Better for back Inflation Style BCD's (Wings)
- Equipped with Cylinder Boot
| Weight [with packaging] | 80 CF, 10.2L: 34.6 lb, 100 CF, 12.9L: 40.75 lb, 117 CF, 15.0L: 45.3 lb, 120 CF, 15.3L, 133 CF, 17.0L: 47.25 lb, 149 CF, 19.0L: 52.05 lb |
5/9/2013 5.0Great Large Capacity Tank - Diving Type:
- Night Diving, Open Water Diving, Wreck Diving
- Was this a gift?:
- No
- Easy to Use
- Large Capacity
- Short High Capacity
- Diving Type:
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By Ken from Black Diamond, Wa - Easy to Use
- Large Capacity
- Diving Type:
- Night Diving, Open Water Diving
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6/20/2012 5.0New and Good Expeience with this tank By Junny from New Haven, CT - Night Diving
- Open Water
- Wreck Diving
- Diving Type:
- Night Diving, Open Water Diving, Wreck Diving
- Was this a gift?:
- No
5/30/2012 (0 of 2 customers found this review helpful) By SCUBA DAN from MERRITT ISLAND, FL - Easy to Use
- Large Capacity
- Night Diving
- Open Water
- Wreck Diving
- Diving Type:
- Open Water Diving
- Was this a gift?:
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